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Thursday, May 20, 2004

 
Bravo Scott! Quite well Fisked. You should post this to your blog.

Jason B.

At 01:01 PM 5/20/2004, scott palter wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "caseotto_2003"
>
> > Maureen Dowd
> >
> > THE NEW YORK TIMES
> >
> > WASHINGTON -- It's their reality. We just live and die in it.
> > In Bushworld, our troops go to war and get killed, but you never
> > see the bodies coming home.
> > In Bushworld, flag-draped remains of the fallen are important to
> > revere and show the nation, but only in political ads hawking the
> > president's leadership against terror.
>
>Scott: Actually the executive order barring cameras from Dover AFB was
>Clinton's first term. And no one bars cameras at the actual funerals except
>that would mean the media getting off their asses and covering them across
>the US instead of one part time stringer with a web cam at Dover.
>
>
> > In Bushworld, we can create an exciting Iraqi democracy as long
> > as it doesn't control its own military, pass any laws or have any
> > power.
>
>Scott: Germany and Japan fell in 1945. Neither got control back before the
>1950's. Iraq gets the civilian ministries back in a month and change.
>After they have elections they get the rest. Elections are delayed by the
>suicide bombings which make a census a tad difficult.
>
>
> > In Bushworld, we can win over Fallujah by bulldozing it.
>
>Scott: Actually we didn't. Pity. Our ROE were more restrictive than most
>SWAT teams operate under.
>
> > In Bushworld, it was worth going to war so Iraqis could express
> > their feelings ("Down With America!") without having their tongues
> > cut out, although we cannot yet allow them to express intemperate
> > feelings in newspapers ("Down With America!") without shutting them
> > down.
>
>Scott: We shut down one paper. Sadr's paper wasn't saying get out - it was
>telling Shiia they had a religious duty to kill Americans AND any Iraqi that
>didn't support Sadr. Would we let a paper publish in one of our cities that
>kept proposing mass killings?
>
> > In Bushworld, it's fine to take $700 million that Congress
> > provided for the war in Afghanistan and 9-11 recovery and divert it
> > to the war in Iraq that you are insisting you are not planning.
>
>Scott: Alleged. Unproven. Probably legal anyway. If proper notices are
>given DoD has had reprogramming authority back to its creation. And doing
>the logistical runup was scarecely a secret. Congress authorized several
>times and could have voted to shut it down.
>
> > In Bushworld, you don't consult your father, the expert in being
> > president during a war with Iraq, but you do talk to your Higher
> > Father, who can't talk back to warn you to get an exit strategy or
> > chide you for using Him for political purposes.
>
>Scott: And if our glorious Shrub called Daddy for advise she'd reverse the
>whine. We had a national debate. I feel the Bushies sold the war the way
>an ad agency sells a car but the opposing points of view were in the media.
>Congress voted. Every Democratic Presidential candidate except Kuccinich
>who was in Congress voted yes.
>
> > In Bushworld, it's OK to run for re-election as the avenger of 9-
> > 11, even as you make secret deals with the Arab kingdom where most of
> > the 9-11 hijackers came from.
>
>Scott: Me I'd have nuked Mecca after 911 then given Saudi an ultimatum
>similar to the one the Austrains gave the Serbs in 1914. Then again WW1
>didn't work out very well. So it is evil to refuse to do a world war
>against Islam if there is any way however distasteful to avoid it?
>
> > In Bushworld, you get to strut around like a tough military guy
> > and paint your rival as a chicken hawk, even though he's the one who
> > won medals in combat and was praised by his superior officers for
> > fulfilling all his obligations.
>
>Scott: Joining the NG was legal. System was set up that way. And anyone
>willing to fly an F-102 is scarely a coward. While not as nad as the F-104
>it was still a death trap. And no one has criticized Kerry for his service.
>It is everything he has done since that has been criticized. Is that not
>fair game? And if not please explain why.
>
> > In Bushworld, it makes sense to press for transparency in Mr. and
> > Mrs. Rival while cultivating your own opacity.
>
>Scott: Bush released his financial records. Mrs Kerry didn't and many orgs
>she gives millions to run major ad campaigns backing her husband.
>
> > In Bushworld, you can reign as the antiterror president even
> > after hearing an intelligence report about al-Qaida's plans to attack
> > America and then stepping outside to clear brush.
>
>Scott: Since 911 they raise the alert status for every twitch and get
>complaints they are crying wolf. Signal to noise ratio. How many similar
>Al Q alerts never happened? However reverse it. Bush floods the two
>airports with FBI that morning and rounds up 19 arabs with boxcutters.
>Claims he foiled a giant plot based on ONE phone call to an embassy in the
>Gulf. Would he have been believed without the towers falling or would the
>story be failing president wags the dog?
>
> > In Bushworld, those who dissemble about the troops and money it
> > will take to get Iraq on its feet are patriots, while those who are
> > honest are patronizingly marginalized.
> > In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in
> > Iraq, even as they increasingly merge the two in America.
>
>Scott: A lie. What ONE sect is Bush putting in charge. The seculars object
>to belief, not sectaranism. They want a militrantly secular US the way
>France is militantly secular. That is NOT what our constitution says.
>
> > In Bushworld, you can claim to be the environmental president on
> > Earth Day while being the industry president every other day.
> > In Bushworld, you brag about how well Afghanistan is going, even
> > though soldiers like Pat Tillman are still dying and the Taliban are
> > running freely around the border areas, hiding Osama and delaying
> > elections.
>
>Scott: Men were still dieing on the DMZ in Korea into the 80's. So did or
>did not that war end in 1953? As for the borders, does she want to invade a
>nuclear Pakistan? I would have prefered that to Iraq but then I am a
>bloodthirsty nihilistic loon.
>
> > In Bushworld, imperfect intelligence is good enough to knock over
> > Iraq. But even better evidence that North Korea is building the
> > weapons that Saddam could only dream about is hidden away.
>
>Scott: Hidden? LOL. he goes to war in Iraq, no good. He tries diplomacy
>in NK, no good.
>
> > In Bushworld, the CIA says it can't find out whether there are
> > WMD in Iraq unless we invade on the grounds that there are WMD.
>
>Scott: they were there in 1998. Sanctions had been leaking massively
>1998-2003.
>
> > In Bushworld, there's no irony that so many who did so much to
> > avoid the Vietnam draft have now strained the military so much that
> > lawmakers are talking about bringing back the draft.
>
>Scott: A few Democrats like Rangel talk up the draft. Bush and Pentagon
>don't want it and have said so repeatedly.
>
> > In Bushworld, we're making progress in the war on terror by
> > fighting a war that creates terrorists.
>
>Scott: Oh the poor Muslims only fight us because we attack them? Explain
>1970 [Black September] - 2001 when we refused to do squat and still had
>terrorists. the fault in is Islam.
>
> > In Bushworld, you don't need to bother asking your vice president
> > and top Defense Department officials whether you should go to war in
> > Iraq, because they've already maneuvered you into going to war.
>
>Scott: Open debate in Congress. Kerry voted yes. edwards voted yes. Saint
>Hillary voted yes.
>
> > In Bushworld, it's perfectly natural for the president and vice
> > president to appear before the 9-11 commission like the Olsen twins.
>
>Scott: Yes. If there was a word difference between their testimony it would
>have been a media firestorm. Actions, consequences.
>
> > In Bushworld, you expound on remaking the Middle East and
> > spreading pro-American sentiments even as you expand anti-American
> > sentiments by ineptly occupying Iraq and unstintingly backing Ariel
> > Sharon on West Bank settlements.
>
>Scott: The neocon expression was stupid but again Congress agreed and hasn't
>voted to recind the madness.
>
> > In Bushworld, we went to war to give Iraq a democratic process,
> > yet we disdain the democratic process that causes allies to pull out
> > troops.
>
>Scott: We were unhappy with the Spanish decision but scarecely took their
>troops hostage.
>
> > In Bushworld, you pride yourself on the fact that your
> > administration does not leak to the press, while you flood the best-
> > known journalist in Washington with inside information.
>
>Scott: Every administration tries to do this. Bush just does it better than
>Clinton.
>
> > In Bushworld, you list Bob Woodward's Plan of Attack as
> > recommended reading on your campaign Web site, even though it makes
> > you seem divorced from reality. That is, unless you live in Bushworld.
>
>Scott: Read the book bitch, not the exerpts from the book tour. Overall it
>is QUITE favorable.



posted by scott 11:27 AM

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